#9 Attack Of The Lizard People

Freak boyfriend dresses up as a lizard for special occasions meanwhile two weirdos go exploring an abandoned warehouse and hear spooky scary sounds. Join Caleb and Stefan this week for the monstrosities. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Boom. Welcome back, everybody, to the Digital Fire podcast. It's Caleb and Stefan. And we have to crack one with the boys.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

Crack a cold one with the boys. That's right. Oh, that was almost perfect sync. Yeah, mine was a little bit more. Just like in sync.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Coconut water is not bad.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

No, I don't mind coconut water. I don't mind it, but it's not like my obvious go-to drink. Arizona tea is where it's at for me. Which I still love that the CEO is still that guy that's like, if you find a store that's selling Arizona tea. Dang. That was pearly. Yeah, Arizona T CEO. He's he's that guy still that like if you find a store that's selling Arizona tea for more than 99 cents, he literally can call like the customer service line or whatever, and then report that store, and then they'll be like, hey, no, you gotta change that tea to 99 cents. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Do they really have the right to do that?

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Yeah, they do, because it's their product.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

Like Arizona. So basically, it's like how Coca-Cola and Pepsi, like you see it right in the front in the main store. Yeah, Coca-Cola and Pepsi pay for that spot. They're paying the store for that spot specifically to showcase their pop. And so if Family Fair just like decided to like, let's just say move it to like another spot of the store when Coke specifically said right here in your storefront, yeah, then Family Fair can get in trouble. So it's just like Arizona's paying a store like Dollar General or a gas station to sell their product, and if they're not selling it to what their price standard is, then they can just pull it and then they lose money. So it's like it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Are you still buying those ones for 99 cents? Yeah. Dang, dog, I didn't know that. Some people have been saying they've been going up.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Yeah, I know at speedways they usually um they they're usually like a dollar five or ten or something.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Boycott Speedway, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

But yeah, it's pretty cool because it's like just the guy goes to that extent because he even said too, like at one point, he goes, the uh think about it. If you're like just working a nine to five job and you just need something quick, and let's just say you only have two dollars to spend, you could get obviously not nowadays, you can't get a candy bar for a dollar, but it's like in a hypothetical situation. You you know, you need something quick to eat. You can go like let's just say McDonald's, you can get a cheeseburger for a dollar, and then you're really thirsty, though. But let's just say McDonald's, you know, things are up. Well, an Arizona tea is 99 cents, it doesn't have a 10 cent deposit on it, you know. You just go there and there's your two bucks. So, yeah, little Arizona tea.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah, there's just one problem with that story. What? The dollar cheeseburger at McDonald's doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

It's like what, $3 now?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Yeah, what do they have? The three dollar menu now?

SPEAKER_02 3:03

Yeah, it's like pick any of these items for three dollars. And it's like cool. So normal price, trying to make it sound like a deal. Well, and then, oh, you know what was cool, though, is that uh Aldi's, they had a fifth or is a 24 pack of Arizona tea. It's assorted, and they're not like the tall cans, they're like just slightly shorter.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Is it like this, maybe?

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Yeah, it's like that. 24 of them. They have Arnold Palmer, they have eight Arnold Palmer, eight green tea, and then they have uh four mango, and then they have four uh oh gosh, the mango food is so good. Yeah, it's like crazy. I thought about it. It was like 15 bucks. I'm like, that's not bad for 24 cans of Arizona for 15 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

I'm like, hmm.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Sounds pretty good. Did you get it? No.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

They probably designed that specifically for you. Probably.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Aldi's has it, dude. Aldi's was the first one with the post Malone Oreos when they had those out. I literally like I saw two packs and I was like, I'm buying two.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Wait, they have actual Oreos at Aldi, not some off-brand.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Well, I mean, they have the off-brand, but they have actual Oreos.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Circle O's or whatever they're called.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Double stuffed. No, they the post Malone ones were really good when he came out with his country album, and he was like, Yeah, I'm partnering with Oreo. It was like caramel mixed with something else. Like uh, not maybe it was Nougat or it was something else. Nougat? Nougat, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

That's how I've always heard it. I've never heard Nougat, but maybe.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

I've heard other people say Nougat, but it was either Nougat or it was like hazelnut or something, but it was really good. It was for a limited time, unfortunately, but it was really good.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Man, I never got one.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah, they they had like little snack pack ones that came with like three or four, and then they had like the normal Oreo thing, but they all had like different out uh pictures on them. So like one had like a vinyl record, and the other one had like him riding a cowboy one from butter, like his song Sunflower, and then he like different songs of post Malone. I was like, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's my little rant for the opening right there.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Get a five-minute opener and then uh then clear your throat. Yep. But obviously, we can't start without first jumping jumping in.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Never get sold.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

We have three stories that are all kind of long, so we'll see how long. All right, we'll see how far we get. This is number one. Hi, my name is Aaron, and I just discovered the podcast a couple weeks ago. Oh. I am 26 years old, and my boyfriend is 29. We have been together for about six months, and so we're really getting to the knowing each other phase. I wonder what that feels like. Yeah, I wonder. We're so lonely. The phase where you think you know everything about this person, and then they go and surprise you with something. Oh. But surprises aren't always good. Oh. Two weeks ago, the reptile exhibit was finally opening at our local zoo. There was food vendors and stands as a celebration. It seemed like the whole city was going to sue the see the new scaly sue the scaly.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

They were gonna sue them.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

The city was going to see the new scaly friends that had arrived.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Scaly friends.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Do reptiles have scales? Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Some. I don't know of all. I mean, because a turtle is a reptile, but it's or and a tortoise is, and they don't have scales. Right. I wonder what determines a reptile versus That's what I'm saying. I well but snakes have scales, right? Snakes, alligators, crocodiles, whatever you call them.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

They're they're well two different things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Alligators are and then lizards. Native lizards. Uh, what am I thinking of? Iguanas.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Some lizards are reptiles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like an iguana is a lizard, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Yeah. It's a form of, yeah, it's a lit, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

It's like a form of like a whatever subspecies, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. They know what we're trying to say. We're not scientists, guys. That's why we're doing this podcast, yeah. We're suing them. Um, another note is I don't live with my boyfriend, so we drove separately.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Uh you drove separately?

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Yeah, because they don't live together.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

After six months? Bro, if I was the guy, I'd be picking her up. That that's hey, maybe that's what this is about. I guess he doesn't want to be around.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Really, would you would you drive every time?

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Not every time, but I would probably be like, let's assume the zoo is in between them both.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

It's like you really gonna waste all that gas going over there and pick her up if it's just to go back the other way. Here's then you gotta drop her off afterwards.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Here's my thing. They're six months in, right? Yeah, so after six months, I would. Because that's like your your relationship at that point, I feel is like mostly there. Like you already know, like, yeah, I'm gonna be with this person for a while, kind of thing. It's not like if they're two months in, then I would be like, was that a very satisfying sip there? But yeah, like if if it was like two months in, I'm like, yeah, I probably would meet in the middle or something like that, or meet at the zoo. But like six months, I feel like that's kind of like fair game for like he should pick me up, or maybe she should pick me up. One of the two, I don't know how that works for them. They're trying to sue the city, I guess. Stefan, they're not trying to sue the city, they're trying to sue the scaly friends, they're trying to yeah, the rip-off teenage ninja turtles.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

We're the scaling friends.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

Continue. I had to itch my head. Gross. I know. Another note is I don't oh yeah, we already said that. Drove separately. He texted me that he was there. I even saw his car and everything, so I kept texting. I don't see you. And are you sure you're at the right place? Looking and looking, I did and turned around. See a person dressed as a full lizard waving at me.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

So we have our first furry, is what we're telling. Scaly. Scaly, excuse me. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

If you can put two and two together, you'll know it was him.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

So this is a secret job. He's the mascot.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

I hope, I hope not.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

No, this is the thing. At least at this point, she would be better off seeing, like, oh yeah, this is my job. Surprise, I'm the mascot, instead of like, yeah, I'm a scaly friend. What's that? I'm a furry.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Let's hope not, please.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

She said, waving at me, uh, dot dot dot. If you can put two and two together, blah, blah, blah. I had to walk around the whole zoo holding hands with this man as he pointed at certain creatures and asked me to take pictures of him at his favorites. In the lizard suit.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

I want to see what this lizard suit looks like. If it's cartoony or if it's like Godzilla looking, like it's real, like real scaly, and like the big bulging eyes that lizards have and whatever.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

And the yellow.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

Or if it's like the gecko from Geico, 15% or more could save you on conscience.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

This podcast is not sponsored by Geico, by the way. It is not is a gecko uh reptile or is it amphibian?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

I uh ooh. I think it's an amphibian. I think. I want to say it's an amphibian.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

We'll have to look it up after, and then you know what? We won't look it up after because we're gonna forget. Which is you're right. Which is fine. It's usually how it works. Now I obviously wouldn't leave him over this, but I am I in the right at being a little embarrassed. It happened two weeks ago, and I still feel the embarrassment when I think of it. And that's the end of the story. That's the end of the story. What did you expect? I don't know if you're like, I think he was gonna climb on buildings and break them down and fight Kong.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Or at least like do what the wolf chick did the other episode, like forever ago, like where she would like he'd get on all fours or try to climb walls or something like that. I don't know. Or he'd like do that weird blink they do with the one eye. You never seen that, or no, what is it? I'm thinking of chameleon. The chameleon does like the weird, like their one pupil goes up and their other one goes down, and they look in like 30 different directions.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

When when was that?

SPEAKER_02 11:48

That was like a while ago, like I think it was last year.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

The wolf girl on on the podcast?

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Yeah, on the podcast. It was like because she she brought a pigeon into the restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yeah, the one that got it on a full all floor, uh, all fours.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, she got it on all fours, and she was like, Oh, bad human, bad human. Yeah, it was weird. She's a freak.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

By the way, that was not a sexual context. No, that was sexual. She was she was outside barking at uh her date.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Viewer discretion is advised.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Viewer discretion is advised, and that's our first episode, if you want to check it out.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Yes, yeah, on digital five.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Called Crazy Bird Girl. Yes. Um, yeah, there's nothing like super weird. She didn't write in details. Some people like the deets, some don't. But I guess her question is, is she in the right at being a little embarrassed? She says, and then she says it happened two weeks ago, and I still feel the embarrassment when I think of it.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

Here's my thing. I I feel yes and no, because yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Yes, no, maybe definitely.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Yes, yes, no, maybe definitely. Kind of sorta. The so here's my intake on it, or my intake, here's my take on it. So I guess if she felt embarrassed, like, or if like she was like, hey, you know, I feel a little embarrassed with you wearing this, like taking pictures and stuff. Can we just say like you're a mascot or something like that? Like, like sh advertising like the zoo or something stupid like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, because then people aren't looking around and be like, oh, she's just like probably one of the people that works here or something like that. Like, play it off like that. Then they'd be lying. I don't give a crap.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Would you go to the zoo with a girl who was dressed as any animal?

SPEAKER_02 13:49

I want to say no. I'm gonna I'm gonna say probably no on that one. Yeah. Can I get 500 on no? Yeah, I don't think I would either. Yeah. But at least it was a one-time thing so far that we know of.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah, she doesn't mention that it's a normal thing because she said it was a surprise.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Yeah, so it's like at that point, but also you gotta keep things a little spicy, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Yeah, like she could dress up as a lizard with them.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Yeah, you could you could do that. Do like the Cosmo Wanda thing. Like, one of you be green, one of you be pink.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Yeah, they could do something like that, and then like nobody knows who they are.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

Right, they're just like two weirdos and lizards, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

So they don't have to feel embarrassed or anything, right?

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Plus, I want to here's my thing. Why is she judging him? What does she do? Well, watch one of these stories. You know what? You know what? Tell tell your man to send us a story about what you've done. So that way we can judge it.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Get him to listen and have him send it in.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

What if it was like he says like she was the one wearing the lizard suit? So it's just a back and forth banter.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

She was when I was actually wearing it. She's trying to play it off the battery.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Sends us proof on the Reddit page, just like her in a lizard suit. Then it's like we caught you in a lie. Dude. We know what you did.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

We need we need the man's to reach out. We do. If if the mans listens and you were the guy in the lizard suit, send us the story.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Send us the story. The narrator voice.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Alright, are we ready for number two?

SPEAKER_02 15:21

We are ready for number two.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

This one is a little more of a scary one. Ooh, scary. I got uh the last one we did had um uh got good feedback on it, so don't worry, I'm not gonna spill my drinky did in the last episode.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

I saw I heard that. Like you're like, oh my gosh, Andy.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Your blanky? Whatever you want to call this. It's technically a poncho, poncho.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's like more poncho vibe.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Because you can wear it and has a hood, which is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Oh, like Daryl Dixon. Yeah. Off The Walking Dead. Woo! I love when he my favorite part, by the way, with Daryl, when he um it's like, I think it was season two when they went on Herschel's farm, and uh they're like Lori's sitting underneath the tree or something like that, and Daryl walks up and she's like, you know, I can't tell Rick I'm pregnant or something like that. He goes, listen to me, olive oil. Like, and he just goes on a whole rant of stuff. He calls her olive oil. It was the most green.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

There it goes.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

That was great.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Yeah, another technical the technical difficulty, folks.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Man, you guys, you should have seen it like as soon as it cut off, and I was like, Coral! It was like it just cut, and we and Caleb just looked at each other, we were like, Oh my god, that actually happened.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Yeah, I've got an old interface that just shuts off for no reason. I think it just needs an update.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Probably. Also, my one other thing I wanted to add about The Walking Dead, another favorite quote there is um, I think what was it, Negan had like captured some people and in Alexandria, yeah, not the spaghetti one, but that is that is a good one.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

I thought you were going with the spaghetti.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

No, that one is a good one, but there's another one that I feel like is really good. Oh, other than little pig let me pick little pig let me in. There's one where like they're like, Yeah, uh, we we think like uh this person goes, don't care. Where's Rick? And then like the part where like the girl, like the bigger girl, is like taking inventory over all the food. She goes, We can barely feed ourselves. And he goes, You starving?

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Like I do remember that. Like he called it.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

I do remember like, dude, Negan is by far the best character ever in the Walking Dead universe, other than the fact that he was really evil and violent at first, but then there's the Walking Dead, Dead City, yeah. So he redeems himself, but Maggie never forgives him. Yeah, Maggie, I think, is still trying to kill him.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Is that show still going on?

SPEAKER_02 18:08

Yeah, they're still looking for like casting crew for like background characters, zombies, and all this other stuff. But it's like you gotta fly out and meet us, and it's like you could be in England for that matter. And I'm like, you think I got the money as a commoner to fly out to England for like now? Okay, if it was 500 bucks a day and it was like maybe like a week and a half, two weeks, or even like three months of just shooting, like at that point it'd be worth it. I would just sell everything I have and just be like, all right, cool, come back.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Yeah, what happens when you come back?

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Well, then I come back and I just rebuy everything.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Figure out a job situation. Yeah. Uh, one other question was the kid that Lori had hers?

SPEAKER_02 18:54

It was Shane's. Oh yeah. Oh uh Judas, I think her name was. Uh yeah, it was Shane's kid. Is uh what I think whoa, I don't know what happened there. But yeah, I think the director um he said that that's actually Shane's kid that um Lori ends up giving birth to. So, but Rick still treats him like or treats him, treats her like uh like she's his own daughter kind of thing. Because now Carl's not there, and there's RJ, and then there's Judas, are his two new kids. RJ's the the boy that he has with a Michonne.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

Yeah. So they they introduce him in the ones who lived, that spin-off series where it's Michonne trying to find Rick, and at the ending, how they they do the finale is they're like, uh or it shows RJ and he goes, So you're the man that mom's told me about. Because I guess they never seen Rick. And so he goes, Yeah, I am. And then he goes, Can I call you dad? And he goes, You can call me dad, son. And then it just ends. So it's like one big happy family.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

That's how the series ends, or the series.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

For the ones for the ones who lived, it ends like that. But then they're supposedly don't ask me why, they're making another spin-off series where Rick and Daryl finally meet after all this time, is what's rumored. Because Daryl and Daryl Dixon is like in Germany or something. And um because he's still trying to find Rick. Because he believes, like, obviously, they they there's no way to really communicate like with anybody on like what to do or where anybody's at, but somehow Carol finds him. Good old Carol.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Yeah, I feel like they're just like not letting the show die and it has to.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

But Daryl Dixon is actually really good out of all the spin-off series that they've done. Probably Dead City and Daryl Dixon are the best. The show is just called Daryl Dixon. Yeah, it's just called Daryl Dixon. But it's it's good, it's really good, yeah. Um, I just like Norman Redis as an actor, so he plays it really good. But he I think they're ending that season, but then they're gonna start the new one. Again, rumored. But anyway.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Anyway, we're gonna move on now. We're gonna move on. Uh, this one is submitted as we thought it was just an empty building. This better not be fake. It's gonna be some stupid story of a rock fell and we freaked out.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

The one guy with the personality like issue where he just was like, Oh, must be haunted. Whatever it was.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Well, you guys you with Andy when he was like freaking out about the compass and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Must be haunted. We're gonna hope that's not this guy. Resubmitted another one because he was boring. Hey, so well, he cleared his throat in that sense.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

So we're sending this in because honestly, we don't really know what else to do with it. You said on the show you wanted real experience, not just urban legends. Ooh. This is real. Oh now we now we know it's not. At least just immediately shot down. At least it felt real while it was happening. Ugh. And it still does now. Dun dun dun. What is this? I'm lost tapes. I'm Danny. My boyfriend is Marcus. Danny? Danny and Marcus. I was thinking of the same thing. Ew, Danny.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Danny's grosser than Marcus.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Marcus isn't bad.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Sorry, Danny, but not sorry.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Were you ever friends with Marcus and Vanguard? I had to censor because Stefan said someone's last name.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

I just docked somebody. Whoops. Yes, I was friends with Marcus at Vanguard. And then he I think he's still at the same apartments with his mom, if I'm correct. It's like out in uh Jennison-ish area.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Really?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah. It's not that far. Um, I know it's like right by a Burger King. That's all I remember. Um but yeah, he uh I think what happened with him? I know you remember Jalen.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Yeah, Jalen's a whole nother story. Oh um but yeah, I think uh they're in Japan at the moment. I think like Jalen moved over to Japan. Yeah, like but this was years ago that he moved. Um, yeah, because he messaged me on Facebook like a while ago, and then we just stopped talking. So but yeah, I think you're probably you and Jake are the only ones that uh I was about to dox Jake. I'm not even gonna lie. Um good job there, buddy. Yeah, there we go. There's your sensor right there for doxing somebody's just ripping one. But yeah, so go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

This happened about three weeks ago in northern Michigan. Oh, just outside this tiny town we were passing through on a road trip. Doesn't tell us which one.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Yeah, it doesn't tell us. Yeah, it must be fake. Skip this one. Yeah, all right. We're going right on to Number Three.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

We weren't looking for anything creepy. We'd been driving for hours, and Marcus spotted this massive abandoned warehouse set back from the road, half hidden by trees. The kind of place you know you're not supposed to go into.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Why is it that just everybody sees like an abandoned building or something stupid, and they're just like, come on, gang, let's split up and look for clues. Like they're just like going right in there, Scooby-Doo style, not thinking anything bad's gonna happen. Well, are you going in there? No, you're not? I'm smart, I'm gonna survive this horror movie, Stefan.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

I would have thought that you'd have been one of the first ones to be like, yo, let's go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

You ever notice how easy it could have been for some of these people in Scream to live? Pick up the phone, you like scary movies, click, yeah, done. They couldn't survive. No, I want to though. I don't know if it's any good.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

I don't know who that guy's seen a single scream.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

He played as Shaggy in Scooby-Doo because he was the first scream killer. Yeah. What's Matthew Lillard, I think his name is. Yeah, Matthew Lillard. Yeah. So I don't know if he reprises his role in the seventh one. I heard rumor, but like I know he played as uh the purple guy in Five Nights of Freddy's twice. Oh he's Springtrap. Um or William Afton is his name in the movie. So anyway, walking in into a warehouse, all stupid like.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Which of course made us want to go in more. It was late afternoon, gray sky, that weird quiet you get in your big empty spaces.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

In the afternoon?

SPEAKER_00 26:12

It was late afternoon gray sky. But that's late afternoon.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

I mean, I guess okay, late afternoon, I guess. I'm like thinking afternoon. I'm like, you're going in daylight?

SPEAKER_00 26:22

I mean, I guess that's smarter than going in at night, but like Yeah, first you're hating on them for being dumb, and now they're being a little bit smart.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Being a little bit smarter.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Like, this isn't a horror movie stuff, and this is a story. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, so like late afternoon would probably be around this time, 6 30-ish, where the sun is kind of going down, but it's not.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

And it's not yelling timber yet? Because you better move. You better dance. Somebody likes Kesha. Kesha? That's not Kesha. Oh, wait, that no, that's Taylor Swift, isn't it? Yeah, that's Taylor Swift. It's going down. No, it's not. I thought it was Taylor Swift's.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

I promise you it's not Taylor Swift. I'm not going to guarantee that it's Kesha.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Well, we're Lewis and followers after this. All the Swifty fans, they're gone.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

I don't think Swifty fans were wanted to listen to two incels give David.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Two incels is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Good lord. Um, yeah, so anyway, that weird quiet you get in your empty spaces, no birds, no wind, just still as you take a sip. The building itself looked like it had been rotting for decades. Broken windows, rusted metal siding, huge sliding doors barely hanging on their tracks. There weren't any signs or fences which made it feel even stranger. Like it had just been forgotten. Oh, this is gonna be one long story I can retell. Marcus joked about it being haunted. I laughed. I wish I hadn't. What was that? I don't know. That oh, do you have laundry going? No. I stopped it before we did it.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Oh, that's what I was sitting there wondering. I was like, oh, maybe it's just the dryer. But yeah, I just heard like a knock or something. I was like, whoa. That's really scary.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Yeah, I know. It makes it even scarier. Oh my gosh. We parked on the side of the road.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Another little hiccup there, ladies and gentlemen, but it's okay. We were just talking about these guys having the expectations that the power was on, thinking it was gonna be as bright as a Detroit Lions Stadium at a homecoming game. But there's no way because if the if it's been closed down for like ever, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, I don't. I'm sure they were probably thinking that the lights were gonna come through or like the sunshine, but they said it was gray out. But it'd still be light.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

It'd still be light, but it definitely not as much as what they're thinking, like where they're gonna be able to see every nook and cranny of everything.

unknown 28:55

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 28:57

I'm tired. You know, you you know how your eyes usually adjust after a second? That didn't really happen.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Oh, I thought you were like just saying in general. Oh no, that's what that's what that's what they're like. You're like, you know how your eyes like adjustments.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Well, she did put it in question form and you did answer it.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Oh, fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

So look at that. It just stayed dim, like the light didn't want to go in very far. The air smelled off. Not just dust or mold, something sweeter, something sweeter but rotten underneath, like old wood soaked in something you couldn't quite name. Ew. Ugh. That's like the worst description I've ever heard. We used our phone flashlights and started walking. Why? At that point, I would I would be gone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Let Marcus go die on his own at this point. Just if you don't hear from him, it's like nice knowing you, Marcus.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Yeah, good going, Danny.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Yeah, out of all the people, Danny. Danny's the survivor.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

At first, it was exactly what you'd expect. Empty space, rusted beams, broken pallets, old machinery that didn't make sense anymore. But the further we went in, the quieter it got. Not normal quiet, like padded.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Like padded. Like padded, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Like sound didn't travel right. That's literally how it's written.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Is it really like Zoing Scoob? Let's get out of here, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Bobo Raggie. I remember saying, Do you hear that? And Marcus said, Hear what? And that's the thing. I didn't hear anything. That was what felt wrong. Even our footsteps sounded muted.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

That's creepy. Maybe they're in a time space continuum. Then we found the office. It was this small structure built inside. Like a room with the bigger spaces. It was a small structure built inside the warehouse, like a room within the bigger space. The door was closed, which already felt weird because everything else was open or broken. Marcus pushed it open. Inside it was different. Less decay. There was still dust, but it looked preserved. There was a desk, a chair, filing cabinets, papers scattered but not completely destroyed. And on the desk there was a tape recorder. Like an old one. Like it old ones, cool. Marcus immediately got excited. He's into that kind of retro stuff, and he pressed play. It worked. There was this crackling sound and then breathing. Ooh. Not talking, just breathing. This sounds this does not sound real. I mean there's no way they went into a warehouse and got a working cassette.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Here's my thing. The only thing I will give them is that a working cassette, I mean, think about it. We came from a generation that like old stuff lasted.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

There's VHS tapes that probably players and VHS that still work to this day compared to like a DVD. Like a DVD, if there's scratch they have the slightest scratch or the slightest speck of dust on it, broken. Yeah. But you can rewind a tape, you could put a new shell or get it to work. I think like that could survive 100%. Um yeah, but doesn't it need that doesn't it need power? Not necessarily. If um Okay, stand corrected. If I mean most of them, like if it's like a portable one, and probably like a double-A battery, but my only validation for it is let's just say there's squatters or somebody in there. You know what I mean? Because like if you go to like some abandoned buildings or whatnot, they always have to check to see if there's squatters in there before like they demo it. You know what I mean? Yeah. So like there could have been somebody in there that just left a tape recorder there and like that's their little home.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

You know, yeah, and they just have a cassette with just breathing on it for no reason.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

I guess we I mean, if they wanted people to stay away, you know what I mean? I would do that if I was like a homeless dude living in an abandoned factory, just play some creepy crap on there and just be like, go away.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Yeah, yeah, that would work. Yeah, that would. Yeah, not a bad idea. Slow, uneven. She's referencing she's talking about the breathing.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

I thought she was talking about Danny.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Too close to the microphone. I remember grabbing his arm and saying, Turn it off, but he didn't right away. He was trying to figure it out as if it was looping or something. Then the breathing stopped, and a voice really quiet said, You came back. Marcus shut it off. Oh, it was coming through the cassette? Yeah. Ooh. That's terrifying. Yeah, but why would uh guess we have to read? I keep trying to be like, why would it say that when we haven't even Why would it say that, man? When we haven't even read the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Pretty stupid.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

We both just stood there for a second, neither of us said anything, and then at the same time, we both kind of laughed, like nervous, trying to make it not weird laughing. He said it was probably a prank, someone messing with people who explore places like that.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

It's always probably kind of sort of maybe definitely a prank.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

I wanted to believe that. I really did, but then we heard something outside the office. A sound, footsteps. That's funny because earlier she said she couldn't hear anything. Yeah, it's all muted. Now all of a sudden she got her ears back, huh? Stuff's not adding up. Soft, slow, dragging slightly. We froze. Since it's a dating podcast, what if it's her ex?

SPEAKER_02 35:13

Moving on. What if it's the lizard guy?

SPEAKER_00 35:15

What if it's a lizard guy? They're connected, they're connected somehow. Yeah, somehow. Because we hadn't heard anyone come in.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

The lizard lyncher.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

That'd be terrifying. He just finds you and hangs you.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Yeah, that'd be scary.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

That would be the horror movie idea.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Hey, like Winnie the Pooh. Like, what is it?

SPEAKER_00 35:37

The the uh what is it called? Is it called Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey?

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Blood and Honey, that's what it is. And then they had the mean one, which was the the Grinch Who Stole Christmas parody. And then they had the Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse one too.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Yep, that one's a new one.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Yep, and then they had Popeye too, because it what it got into the the uh domain. Public domain.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Public domain, so and the first thing they do is make some because I heard the Winnie the Pooh one sucked.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Oh yeah, it was bad. It was basically just look like a dude that wore like a cheap like $5 Winnie the Pooh mask, and that was it. Like, wow shame.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

And remember, sound didn't travel right in there, but this this we heard. I guess she clarified. Marcus whispered, hello, which yeah. Idiot, which yeah, bro's trying to get caught and died. Not the best move. The footsteps stopped, and then just outside the door, we heard that same voice clearer this time. You're late. We didn't stick around after that. We bolted like full-on panic. We ran out of the office across the warehouse, not even caring where we stepped or what we hit. I remember my flashlight shaking so badly the beam was useless. And here's the part that messes with me the most the warehouse felt longer on the way out. As it would, you're freaking out.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah, like the adrenaline rush is there, and you're trying to get the heck out of there.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Yeah, you're freaking out.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Especially when you hear somebody going, You're late. He wakes up, it's just a nightmare from him working. It's his boss.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Like it's stretched. What should have maybe take what should have taken maybe 20 seconds felt like minutes. The exit looked farther away than it had been before. I actually thought for a second that we weren't going to find the door again. But we did. We got outside, slammed, slammed into the cold air, and just kept running until we reached the car. Who says that? Slammed into the cold air. We didn't speak until we were back on the road. We told ourselves it was just adrenaline, bad acoustics, some creepy recording, someone else inside we didn't see. All reasonable explanation explanations. Except two days later, Marcus checked his phone recordings. He hadn't realized it, but when he pulled out his phone in the office, he accidentally started recording audio. We listened to it together. You can hear us walking, the tape recorder clicking on, the breathing. But that's not the worst part. Because underneath all of it, very faint, but definitely there, is another sound. Footsteps following us from the moment we entered the building. That is scary.

SPEAKER_03 38:38

I'm scared of freaking out right now.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

And at the very end of the recording, right before we start running, there's a whisper, not from the tape recorder, not from us, right behind the phone. Don't leave me again. We haven't got gone back. We're not going back.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

I would hope not. These guys would be like, we're gonna go back. Just imagine. Part two.

SPEAKER_00 39:08

Yeah, we definitely need a part two to this. But sometimes late at night night, Marcus says he hears something in our apartment. Ooh. Just for a second. Just for a second. Soft dragging footsteps moving just out of sight.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

And that's the end. That's actually pretty creepy.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

That's yeah, that one has me scared. Well, like I'm glad it's only 6:40 and it's still nice and sunny out.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Yeah, for real. Jokes on you. It's daytime. Dude, I would be freaking out too if I walked into a building. Or didn't you say like there was like a school somewhere that you went to and somebody had like a full body mirror that was propped up against the desk and you walked by it and like it you thought somebody was in the building with you?

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Yeah, I mean, I definitely went with friends. It's there was I think it's still there on Byron Center Avenue and Eighth Avenue. That's scary. And it's this old abandoned uh schoolhouse, and there's like a handprint smudged. I'm pretty sure it was probably just for shock. Yeah. They did it to make it look intentionally. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

And then there was like some like peanut butter and stuff. I'm sure there's probably peanut butter. I'm sure there's a squatter that lives there. Oh, yeah. Probably. But it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere. So it's kind of it's weird.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

But at the same time, if you're a squatter and you're just chilling there, it's kind of like you're not really getting disturbed.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Yeah. Except for by people like us who go in there.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Yeah. But even then, too, like that would be terrifying to like hear a squatter or somebody like in a building. Yeah, like that. Or even just like, oh my gosh. Like, my the creepiest thing I've ever had was like, it was at Penn Street, and there was um it was the upstairs. Like, so I think I've said it before on the podcast, but like there was one time where I was like, it was when MySpace was around, and my mom had taken my sister or my brother to the hospital with a friend because my sister, when she was a baby, like accidentally like gave my mom a paper cut, like near her eye, so they were making sure like she was gonna be okay. Um, and I stayed home because I was like, I think 13 or 14 at the time, and all of a sudden, like I just heard footsteps upstairs, and then like just it sounded like somebody was running down them.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Like, I remember you telling me that story. Yeah, it was terrifying. Last time you told it, I remember I had I was scared to go to sleep because that story really freaked me out.

SPEAKER_02 41:42

Yeah, and then too, even like when you look up videos on YouTube, like I've seen it like when I was really into paranormal stuff, like YouTube videos, like I think it's like Top 10 Nuke or something like that is his name. He had a thing where he would show paranormal activities, like people recording it, and there'd be like a downstairs cellar, and then the guy would be like, Hello, and then you hear like bum bum bum.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

Like running up the stairs, and then just like the guy be like, Oh, like yeah, but what if that's like post-editing or it could, or they just have someone down there already?

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Yeah, but no, but like the way that it comes off of the camera, it literally sounds like somebody's running up the stairs to them. So it's like that's where the paranormal stuff comes in. I'm like, oh, screw that. Like, I would rather just have like a ghost from Scooby-Doo come up, like with the chains and like everything, and he old man Jenkins.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids and your Don Dog.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

Scooby.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

It was always the same thing. It was like someone that they encountered earlier in the episode, and it was always like the mad guy, like, oh, I hate that these people are moving out here.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Except in the Scooby-Doo movie, the live action one, where it was it was Mr. Bean from Mr. Bean's holiday, that actor. And he ended up being an android, and then he's like, Scrappy-doo! And like he came out of the chest, and then it was him because he got kicked out of Mystery Inc. Because he peed on Daphne, and they just left him in the desert.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

It goes, I seeked my revenge and I found the pyramid, and now it's mine with all the power.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

All I need is Scooby-Doo, and then Link just so Scrappy Doo was the bad guy. Yeah, Scrappy Doo was the bad guy in the first Scooby-Doo live action movie.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

But there was also Zombie Island, which was different too.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Yeah, zombie.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

They were actual zombies, yeah. Now it was like the first time it's Tampa Time again.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

I remember that song. Because yeah, it was actual zombies, and then there was the alien one, too. Because it was the the hippie girl and then the hippie. Dog girl like that was in love with Scooby. Like one episode. It was it was a movie. Like, so they were in the desert or something like that, like near Area 51, or something stupid was the plot. And then like Shaggy and Scooby and the gang, like all there's like an a hippie girl that's just like Shaggy. And then there's like a dog that's like a golden retriever, and like they all like each other, like Scooby and Shaggy. And then oh, they're really aliens, they just disguise themselves and they have to go back up to the mothership and like get out of here. And then he's like, Oh dude.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

I think I vaguely remember that one. If I saw the pictures, I do, I would definitely know what they looked at. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

I think that one came out after Zombie Island. Yeah. I think.

SPEAKER_00 44:45

And then there was also the Psy the Cyberspace one. Cyberspace one.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Yeah, because it was like they're doppelgangers. Like it was like you had uh cybernetic shaggy uh Shaggy, and he had like a red shirt and everything like that on. Yep. Yeah, that one was another one. That one was definitely after Zombie Island because it had like newer animation.

SPEAKER_00 45:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Man, we're old. But yeah, so these guys, so that was just the end of the story. No questions about it. Like, what do you think? Or maybe we could ask our viewers, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 45:16

Yeah, if you're on Spotify, you can definitely comment. Do you think that story was real, or do you think that these people are full of it? Um, or you can send us fan mail. There's a link that's in our thing. And all fan mail I will read. Oh, that'd be kind of cool. On like the next episode that we do. And you'll remain anonymous, so don't worry.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

I'm gonna dox you somehow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

Well, I'll make sure to censor.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

You just censor it. You just put like a black sharpie like over their last name, and I somehow still read through it and just read it out loud. So, what do we have? Do we have one more? Yes, do you want to do it? Yeah, let's do it. Number three! Yeah, wow! I'm gonna take another sip of Arizona tea real quick.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

Guys, help me out. Is my girlfriend cheating on me?

SPEAKER_02 46:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Let's start with the story. Hey, at least he he might maybe he listens to you because you're always like, I need a story. I need to start with the story. It was last summer when I first laid eyes on the most beautiful girl in the universe.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Oh Hallmark love story.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

There she was in the town square with her blue eyes and blonde hair flowing in the wind. Brisk was the air.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Stefan, you're you're hating this.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

No, I like the story. It's just like the corniest crap I've ever heard. It's just the brisk air with the blonde hair and blue eyes. So majestic and so pretty.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Actually, he said blue eyes and blonde hair flowing in the wind. Brisk was the air.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Oh, my bad.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

I gotta give him I gotta give that rhyme to him.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

That's true. But yeah, it is Dr. Seuss's grandson.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Yeah, maybe. It was almost magical and cinematic. You should have seen it. She was facing me, and she gave me the most flirty smile that drew me in within a whisper. And then she turned around and the view got better.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

Oh my gosh.

unknown 47:21

All right, man.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

He started off so good. Yeah, it was like a cutesy. Total like chivalry.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Like, I don't objectify women, but she turned around and I approached and then I approached then and there, and we went on our first date. And the days would go by and we'd be in love. The summer would fade and the days would get shorter and shorter. We live in Maine, so the leaves change colors before they pass on from this life. When the wind would breeze from the ocean and kiss the trees and take the leaves with it. This dude is so poetic, dude. What is with this guy?

SPEAKER_02 48:03

An English major.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

The English major. The English major. And the leaves and the trees and take the leaves with it. Her and I would go for a walk in the once-a-year weather that Autumn would offer.

unknown 48:17

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

I told them a little whisper. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

It was and still is one of my favorite things to do to this day. Coming up on almost a year being together, we have talked about engagement.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Yay! Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

She and I were so excited that we each have finally found our person, and then it happened. Oh. She would start talking about wait. I have that somewhere. Where is it? She would start talking about how she wants to go on road trips with her friends before she gets tied down. That's kind of a bad stuff. That's a red flag. She's there. If she's referring to them being together when they're married as tied down.

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Yeah, that's like immediate, like, we're not getting married, brah.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

Yeah. She wanted to not have contact with each other while she's on these trips. The trips were co-ed with some of the guys being single. She brought her girlfriends too. How come girls can say, like, oh, I'm hanging out with my girlfriends? But if you and I were like, hey, I'm hanging out with my boyfriend, immediately gay.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I don't know why. And then it's like the same, well, and then here's here's my take on it, too. Is like, so how come girls can have guy friends, but guys can't have girlfriends? You know what I mean? Like if they're in a relationship per se, not like if they're single. Like for me, I have girl and guy friends. Yeah. But like if I was in a relationship, it's like, nope, you're not allowed to have a girlfriend, and it's like, but it's platonic. And then but a girl's like, oh, he's just a friend.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

It's completely platonic. I don't trust that. Well, I'm pretty sure you can say, like, hey, I don't want you hanging out with him. And if she says, Okay, I'll respect your decision, then it's like, great. And if he says, I'm not gonna respect the decision, that's like sign up.

SPEAKER_02 50:11

And and just to be clear, too, I'm not trying to make it like a double standard thing, but I mean like, because it can go the other way too. Like it can be like where if she's like, Well, I don't want you hanging out with her, and it's like if the guy's like, oh, well, you know, she's just a friend, yeah. Like, then at that point, then it's like, okay, well, clearly something is amongst, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

So yeah, it goes both ways, but I get it. So right.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

So no contact. She's uh she's going on trips with single with single guys, she brings her girlfriends too, but that still doesn't sit well with me having single guys on the trips. In some of her Instagram posts and stories, sometimes she's standing or laying down next to said guys.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

They are always group photos, but again, I say doesn't sit well with me. So what's the story? Is she cheating?

SPEAKER_02 51:02

That was it?

SPEAKER_00 51:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Oh, uh what do you mean that was it? No, I thought there'd be more because like she's just laying down with the guys and girls, and it's just like, oh, but one of the guys was getting too comfortable. You know what I mean? That's what I was expecting, is to be like, is she cheating?

SPEAKER_00 51:19

Yeah, well, I mean, if she's laying down next to the guys, even if their group photos are like standing, yeah. I don't know what like where are they laying.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Right, like it was just like, I don't know, like you know, like each beach photo, yeah, like a beach photo, or if it's like one of those like stupid corny ones where it's like you got like let's say the guys like laying, I know they can't visually see this. You can explain it, but like you lay down flat like a pencil, like yeah, on the ground, and then like somebody's like so your feet are where their head is, like one of those like corny pictures, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

Like, I can like something like that. But if it's like you're all laying on his chest and it's like all oiled up or something like that, you're just like you're just like obviously that'd be weird, yeah. It'd be weird, be like, okay, you probably cheating.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

But also if it's like if it's in a bedroom, I think that'd be maybe kind of weird.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Yeah, a bedroom. Even a theater, too, in public, like in a way, like if she's got like you know, her head like resting on a shoulder or something like that, like it's like, yeah, this is my friend Kevin.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

And it's just like yeah, he's he's so awesome.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

Yeah, he's just my friend, Kevin. Yeah, he's just my friend.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

Bro, I think you're cooked. I think she's cheating. I think you're cooked. Oh even if she's not cheating, it's just not someone who's worth marrying if she's gonna refer to you as tied down.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

Right. I would say the tied down thing is what threw me off the most because it's like you don't you wouldn't refer to like your relationship like that. Like I know when again, I know I refer to this a lot, but it's like when I was, you know, when I engaged or proposed to my fiance, it was more of like, yeah, you know, I'm not tied down, I'm like, she's my fiance.

SPEAKER_00 53:05

Right. You know, it's it's a marriage, not not ball and chain.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

Right, not ball and chain. Yeah, because you make it sound like it's a miserable experience at that point. If she's referring to your guys' relationship as tied down, right, it's just like, oh gosh, my my husband is crawling or whatever. Like, I mean, I would say if I don't know, because again, without more context of like, okay, if they're just laying down, again, depending on how might be the only context he has. I guess.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

So if the if he's not in contact with her on these trips, right? He doesn't really know what's happening, he just sees Instagram posts. That's all the information he can give us.

SPEAKER_02 53:47

Right. And then I would say, depending on how she acts when she gets back from them, like if she's distant or if she's a little bit more moody, per se, like in regards to like she's just like you drop a pencil on the floor and oh comma, like something.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Because she's fighting the guilt.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

Yeah, because she's fighting the guilt, and so like she doesn't want to admit to it though. Um, then at that point, I'd be like very suspicious. But I feel like if it's just Instagram posts and it's just maybe something innocent, like laying down, like again, like in a friendly way or something like that. Again, not oiled up like pecs or anything like that, but but just something like you know, just a just a friendly, ah, there we go kind of thing. Then it's like whatever. Just like I wouldn't overthink it, but I wouldn't like underthink it at the same time, if that makes sense. Like, I just keep like uh what's the what's the wording for it? Like an open mind in case something like does come up. Like again, I'd pay attention to her like mood, like stay guarded and be like be prepared to leave.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

I feel like if you're prepared to leave, like just leave then.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

Not prepared to leave, but just like observe, yeah, see how like things go between your guys, like if anything's different between your relationship. Like, I don't know, like I'm just gonna throw it out there. If they're having sex or something like that, and then like the sex stops, or it's just maybe not as often as it is. I don't know what these two clubbirds are doing, but like if it's something like that, then I'd be like, okay, like that's a little like let's just yeah, you know, whatever. Or if it's like if you're going out on a date, holding hands, drinking coffee, and you're walking through like Scotland Yard or something like that, and then all of a sudden, like that was scary first of all. I don't know if you heard that through your hallway. What somebody like slammed a door? No, I didn't have that. Yeah, it was scary. I was like really skewy, but I mean really skewy. But yeah, like, or like if they're holding hands or like, oh, let's go to our favorite Scott Scottyard? Scotland Yard. I don't know. It was just it's based Scotland Yard is like I think London's police or something like that. Yeah, but I don't know, they're just walking through it or whatever, and all of a sudden, like she just doesn't want to hold your hand anymore, or she doesn't want to sit down on a bench with you or go out to your favorite restaurant, whatever. Like, if there's sudden mood swings like that, or just vibes like that, like then yeah, I'd be a bit more skeptical. That's my take on it. But if it's still normal when you get back and it's still fine, and she's not like trying to hide her phone, like that'd be probably the most obvious sign. Then at that point, be like, we need to talk. Premarital counseling. That would be the route to go at that point.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

Well stuffan I was gonna say, well, Stephanie, I think you're saving this guy a lot of trouble with that. So I think we just helped out three people majorly, and that's why they send these stories to the experts. Anyway, thanks everyone for listening, and don't forget to send your stories to digitalfire podcast at gmail.com.

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